Thursday, June 19, 2025

The Undocumented as a Taxpayer?

Responses to Facebook chats.


TRUE, the "undocumented" paying taxes is a fact but that requires a longer discussion than a meme. (Memes simplify, trivialize, or distort facts, mostly.) 



       The migrants: <>Those who cross the border and go straight to a farm or factory, a set-up that is mostly arranged by business owners and coyotes. These migrants (many are kids) are maybe paid $2 to $4 a week but fed via rations and housed in trailer homes (12 in a trailer for 4). 

       <>Those who get here sans cartel/human smuggling facilitation or those who escaped from them--to join kin here who are legal or were taken in by nonprofits or churches which provide them shelter and paralegal aid somehow are entered into the system, declared to DOJ or ICE but with lawyers. Most are not arrested because their relatives or church foster or accept them. 

       The latter “pay” taxes if they stay and work while awaiting legal status or some kind of paper. Yet there are those who are maintained and "kept" by human smugglers and drug cartels somewhere and used for the obvious. 🗽🏃‍♀️🏃


THE real discussion here are federal benefits. The undocumented don't really get any regardless although via intricate procedures, they pay taxes, including from buying stuff at Walmart. Yet, for example, when calamities hit, they are mostly not counted, they are ghosts or too scared to show up. 

       Discussion of the undocumented isn't this simple though. There are also millions of "visa overstays" who are more active in other workplaces, pay taxes (mostly via "fake" Green Card or SS number) but don't get benefits or paid the deserved pay. 

       And they couldn't visit home or country of origin because they can't. Many have been here for decades. This truth or fact of “visa overstays” has been going on in the U.S. for many, many years. 🗽🏃‍♀️🏃




IT is sad that the (new) Left is talking about these migrant deportations now as President Trump sends back thousands that Joe Biden let in in record numbers, from 2021 to 2024. The asylum program has been bankrupt for years.   

       Mr Biden erased the Merida Initiative in 2021 which cut funding in law enforcement in Central America. The D of course is set to break Barack Obama's 4-year record of the most deportations. Of course! 

       Meanwhile, Europe is also facing a similar migrant problem since the creation of the Schengen Area in the 1990s. Laxity in their borders paved the way for a migrant crisis that they haven't solved yet as human smugglers continually took advantage big time. Etc etcetera. 🗽🏃‍♀️🏃


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